Posted by the lab/frankee on July 08, 1999 at 05:24:27:

In Reply to: Re: Definitions - what is bad ripping? posted by Ming on July 05, 1999 at 11:57:10:

Sure, we can begin a "Ripper Sotckade" as mentioned in an earlier thread, but we must be careful -- much like in the days of the "witch hunts" you don't want a frenzy to erupt, and innocent people being blamed... If I decided that you pissed me off, what is to prevent me from changing a song from my name to yours and then reporting you as a "Ripper"??
no, nothing will prevent you from doing that, but if you're the only one who has something bad in mind, then you have to play it hard to trap someone. you must be very unpopular if +10 trackers want to set you up and blame you for being a ripper. and i think that no-one thinks that dj carbon is the victim of different trackers who want to frame him.
though it is a interesting conspiticy-theory :)

Well, nobody prevrnts me from starting false rumors on the net or on the scene right here and now either. Its not all that hard. I think this could actually prevent a witch-hunt mentality. Youd have to convince the members of the network that you are right. Crowds are stupid and easy to manipulate. Individuals are smart.
ICOMM won't be a crowd. we all know how the internet works and that you can easily sue so-one. there has to be a very big suspicion. there have to be the same complaints from different persons and with good proof. if you upload a song from somebody else with your name, then the server (like the modarchive) can tell us when this song is uploaded, so we can see if the song is younger than the accuser claims. just an example...

: Here we need some kind of tool that can prove that we actually are the original authors of a song. Who protects "real life" artists work from open stealth?

: : This is why there needs to be more organization, and more discussion about the idea. I hope that more people can join us here in discussing the situation.
the organisation could also provide trackers information on how to protect your songs easily. if i convert my it-formatted song from 16 to 8bits with modplug, it's automatically sealed. if i want to change something in my 8bits-song, is can't. impulse tracker will save only crap. the samples will be useless (i don't know if the same thing heppens when you save a 8bits it-song under modplugtracker. never tried.).

the lab/frankee