______/\___________________________ __ ________________ ___ /\_______ \____ \ ________ _ _ ______ \ / \| \ ________ | \/ ______/ / | \ _) \ \_/ \ | \ / \ \ _) \ | \______ \ / | \ \ | \ | \/ \ \ /~\ \ / \ \_____ /_______/___| /________/\____\_____/_______/_________/________/ ===\_____/============|____/========================================[+tZ^]== DemoNews Issue #84 February 19, 1995 - February 25, 1995 ------------ DemoNews is a weekly publication for the demo scene. It is produced at the Internet FTP site ftp.eng.ufl.edu (HORNET). This newsletter focuses on many aspects of demos and demo making. Everyone is welcomed to contribute articles, rumors, and advertisements. Information about HORNET and DemoNews can be found under /demos/README -Christopher G. Mann (Snowman)- r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu Start.of.DemoNews.084,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., SIZE: 37,211 SUBSCRIBERS: Last week: 1227 This week: 1260 Change: +33 Countdown to NAID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx O -and- : +--------------+----------------+--------------+------- Music Contest ]I[: January February March April 15! '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' SECTIONS ARTICLES ----------------- ----------------------------------- New Uploads Files recieved at HORNET Reviews Imphobia 9 Infused Bytes #2 (diskmag) HORNET News Music Contest ]I[ DemoNews for DOS Plus Genesis (HORNET's Demo) HORNET at NAID General Articles Imphobia 9 (Bogus Bug Fix) Changes Mail Room Time for Reviews Necros is 'Da Man I Used to Be a Subscriber Where's the ROMs? Where's the Parties? What /groups? Code Denthor Uncovers a Secret Plot Advertising Musicians Needed Back Issues How to Get 'em, Descriptions Closing Comments DemoNews Top 10 LIst ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' NOTE: All locations start with /demos and then their respective sub- directory. Please note however that the actual base directories (like /pub/msdos/demos) may differ from mirror to mirror. Location Filename.Ext Size Description ---------------- ------------ ---- ---------------------------------------- /demos /alpha/NEW 4ge-xmas.zip 4 Xmas '94 Intro babytro .arj 557 The Babytro by Nostalgia idh-anim.zip 350 Demo Slide Show liberfix.zip 11 Patch for Force 2's "Liberation" demo omc-atom.zip 1134 Atomic Energy by Omicron tfa-love.zip 88 Valentine Intro by Ground Zero /parties x95intro.zip 177 X'95 Party Invitation Intro /diskmags cnbugfix.zip 147 Purple Presents Contact Issue #1 ibytes02.zip 929 Infused Bytes Diskmag #2 imphob#9.zip 1391 IMPHOBIA 9! Get it now. /music /disks ridersmd.zip 513 StrangeStyleMusicDisk by Riders rebirth1.zip 1059 Mazurka Rebirth disk 1/2 rebirth2.zip 1084 Mazurka Rebirth disk 2/2 /programs/frontendghsc105a.zip 35 Grafik HSC Player v1.05a (simple shell) /programs/misc modzip11.zip 26 Automatically makes your song's .zip /programs/players cmod220 .zip 68 CapaMod v2.20 (Snowman's personal fav.) cp095 .arj 674 Cubic Player v.095 (SB/GUS,XM/S3M,etc) starp202.zip 22 Star Player v2.02 (GUS, S3M/MOD) /songs/mod se-phunm.zip 58 Phunk by Sonic Enigma (MOD version) you15 .zip 192 You 15 posted by STrix /songs/s3m b13-0002.zip 160 Bureau 13 #2 (Looking Glass) by Lankhmar b13-0003.zip 178 Bureau 13 #3 (Popul Vuh) by Lankhmar bj-1st .zip 89 First Escape by Big Jim / Valhalla cy_anlg .arj 62 Analog Deathwish by Cyclone cy_lstch.arj 220 Last Chance to See by Cyclone fina-67 .zip 104 Job 67 from FinaDisk 1995 by Bolleke fina-81 .zip 146 Job 81 from FinaDisk 1995 by Bolleke getout! .arj 116 GetTheHellOut!! by Hector jjj-angl.zip 467 Call me an Angel by Oxygen and ENiGMA jjj-dick.zip 202 Short Dick Man by Oxygen and ENiGMA jjj-love.zip 260 Burning Love by Oxygen and ENiGMA k-celest.zip 334 Celestial Lullabye by Basehead k-wsands.zip 487 White Sands by Mental Floss mrvain .zip 64 Mr Vain (Extract) by Melvin Chia mrvain2 .zip 64 Mr Vain (Extract) v.2 by Melvin Chia nk-pp .zip 54 Preludio & Pinote by Obi Wan Cannabis nonsense.zip 80 Nonsense by Rider rapdream.zip 93 Rapadreaming by Rider sky_ethr.zip 491 Ethereal by Skyjump sky_saba.zip 217 El Sabado de Fuego by Skyjump tlgrae .zip 303 3rd in the Land series by Lord Blanka vibes .zip 115 Feel the Vibes! by Avalance wk-look .zip 161 Look by Ron Labao wk-spin .zip 132 Spin by 'Wolfgang', Ron Labao /songs/xm 1t .arj 170 My First Try by Lole 2t .arj 347 My Second Try (Tekkno-song) by Lole c_pak01 .zip 319 ClaimPak 01 Dreams of Hurt (4 .XMs) chechen .zip 1113 Chechen by The Kraken crimea1 .zip 814 Crimea 1 (goes with Cubic Player) ida-trwh.zip 363 Trance of Whale by Idaho koningin.zip 275 De Koningin van Lombardije by Dynamix mld-guid.zip 246 The Guide by Mellow-D newhouse.arj 502 House Remix polizei .arj 259 Eins, zwei, polizei ... se-phunx.zip 60 Phunk by Sonic Enigma (XM version) seraph_ .zip 173 The Seraph by Nathan D. Bowen /graphics /pictures amourfou.zip 434 Demo slide show of a real horror story evasion .zip 107 Evasion (preview) 2 .gif of 3DS anim. /utils dpx11 .zip 15 DP/X Path v1.1 Run Delux Paint dif. mode /utils/spriter spriv103.zip 24 Spriter v1.03 (tool for sprites, icons) /code /demosrc chaos4k1.zip 14 Source from 4kb ASM94 intro called chaos /graph/fade fade2 .zip 3 Fade code in Turbo Pascal /graph/tutor tut10new.zip 45 Snowman's converted Denthor code in C++ /pmode pmw116 .zip 73 PMODE/W v1.16 DOS Extender /sound gusrev02.zip 13 GUS revision tester sblast09.zip 502 SB Programming Information v0.90 /utils et-con14.zip 32 Exotic Text Converter v1.4 ll_kbd .zip 52 32-bit Watcom source for 8042 keyboard ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' By popular demand, we present some reviews of uploads on HORNET. This section should grow as future issues of DemoNews come out. Look for more new upload reviews in the future! Unless I'm busy studying, programming, composing, etc.. The rating scale: * Not worth downloading. ** It will leave you bland. *** A worthy effort. **** Hope these guys show up at NAID/ASM'95.. ***** Required for your demo/music collection. Andrew Voss - Phoenix [KFMF] - vossa@rpi.edu _____Imphobia #9 /demos/diskmags/imphob#9.zip (1391k) Rating: ****+ (4.5 of 5) The Imphobia Diskmag crew has released another issue of their world- famous demo-mag as promised, and it's bigger than ever before! Bigger to the tune of 2.8 Mb! Although most of the graphics the make up the mag are identical to issue #8, there are many more articles than the previous issue. - What's New? This issue covers the last few parties like The Party IV, Juhla '95, and Wired '94, all in Europe. The Party '94 articles are thorough, but then again, so were those in DemoNews :). They're worth reading anyway. A "Music Corner" section has been added to the articles, in light of the booming music scene. It features articles like Scream Tracker 3 vs. FastTracker 2, tips and tricks, and reviews of TP94 music, MC2, and the Epidemic musicdisk. The music selections in the mag are excellent as always. Artists included are Basehead of KFMF/ImpCda, Zodiak of ImpCda, and Scorpik of S!P. Two of the tracks are eight channels, a first in this issue, but they can only be heard if you have a GUS. - What's Old? For those of you who have not seen any issues of the Imphobia Diskmag, this is what you are missing. The mag is basically split up into five parts: editorial, charts, interviews, articles, and credits. The first and last are self-explanatory; the other three go as follows: Charts: Top 15 Groups, Demos, Intros, Coders, Artists, Musicians, Music- Disks (Egg 2 made it, woohoo!), and Overall. The voting is conducted through anyone who submits a voting form. Interviews: one-on-one's with various members of demo groups, mainly from Europe. Articles: The articles are almost countless. Categories include: Front News, Coding/Graphics/Music Corner, Partyline, Weird Stories, Poetry, Messages, and Advertisements. - What's Wrong? I have but two peeves about the mag: One, I can't play the 8-channel music due to my "lame" SB-Pro, and two, when you scroll forward through the articles, they will sometimes scroll back! I hope this gets fixed, it gets annoying. - Overall Rating If there's one diskmag you have to get until NAID or ASM '95, let it be this one. Although it caters more to the European demo scene than the American, it offers a wealth of information to anyone interested in demos. _____Infused Bytes #2 /demos/diskmags/ibytes02.zip (929k) Rating: ** (2 of 5) A few days after the release of Imphobia 9, this diskmag comes out. It was put together by a group from _Russia_. The English is choppy, but it's understandable. The mag covers the "demo and hacker scenes" in Russia and the rest of the world, for the IBM, Amiga, and (gasp) C-64. Included are articles, charts, a couple interviews (one with Daredevil/ Ren), _lots_ of rumors/opinions, and some pictures. Infused Bytes uses VGA (320x400) and DSMI, which means if DMP works with your sounds card, this will too. - What's New? New to this issue are graphics and sound. Apparently it is a big improvement over issue #1. - What's Old? Everything. Start reading the articles and you'll swear it's 1993 again. All the reviews and charts are outdated (Maelcum made top 10 musicians, though!). The newest articles cover ST3.01 and ASM94. - What's Wrong? I got the mag to run with no problems on my 486/TS4000/SBPro. So I have no complaints about bugs or getting the diskmag to work, just the lack of effort involved in filling it. - Overall Rating If you want more up-to-date information on demos and such, download Imphobia # 7 (not a typo (: ). The Russian scene at present seems like the American scene pre-Renaissance (group, not era), which wasn't pretty. Unless you are curious about demo-life in the former Soviet Union, there are better ways to use 1.6 megs diskspace. ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' This week, without a doubt, has been the busiest for me in months. Academics and work aside, HORNET was aglow with activity. _____Music Contest ]I[ (general) You probably didn't enter Music Contest I. Mabey you entered Music Contest ][. Well, Music Contest ]I[ is something you definitely _will not_ want to miss. By tradition, the Music Contests are international music competitions that are not held at any specific location (like a demo party is). Instead, musicians track their tunes, then upload them to HORNET. From there, a large group of judges rate the songs and the results are posted indicating the winners. This week, I completed the alpha version of the text for MC3. At this point, no information will be given about specifics of the contest until I get some feedback from others. Before you ask, the contest will be officially announced at the NAID demo party on April 15, 1995. _____Music Contest ]I[ (Intro) Jason Nunn, Stony, myself, and a few others are working very hard to produce a respectable invitation "intro" to announce this contest. !!WE NEED YOUR HELP!! Jason is our main coder for this intro, and he lives in Australia. This is long way from the United States of America (where I reside). Jason has only limited 'net access, and we are desperately seeking an Australian courier to help us get files to each other. If you know _anyone_ who can help with this, please write me at r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu. I can not stress enough how much we need a courier. By the way, we _really_ need a courier. Did I mention we need a courier? The point is, if we can't find someone, then the invitation (and possibly Music Contest ]I[) will be delayed. Jason is also looking for some public source code for .lzh compression routines. If you know of any, please write me about it. _____Music Contest ]I[ (Player) The HORNET staff is working on a player program for judging the MC3 entries. This is being coded by MikMak/Hardcode and the interface is being done by Rao and Air Richter. This player supports XM, S3M, and MOD formats on both GUS and the Sound Blaster family of cards. To my knowledge, this will be the first player to fully and accurately support the XM (Fast Tracker ][) format. Trust me, I use this player instead of FT2 to listen to all the XMs I have here. After MC3 is over, this player's interface will probably be changed slightly and it will become a wonderful stand alone player just like DMP, CapaMod, or Inertia Player. From my personal listening, it already whomps all three of those in raw sound quality! _____Music Contest ]I[ (Free Disks!) I have about 100 low and high density disks lying around here that are doing nothing but collect dust. Recently, I thought of a good way to put these to use. A local company (Kinkos) produces nice color disk labels at low prices. If possible, I will be putting the MC3 Intro and Player on these disks, slapping on a nice label, and _giving_ them away for _free_ at the NAID demo party. _____DemoNews for DOS Plus The staff at HORNET is going to tackle a new project. DemoNews for DOS Plus (DNDP) is destined to be a fantastic disk magazine complete with graphics and music. Three issues are currently being planned: Issue #1 : The Best of DemoNews (interviews, editorials, articles, etc.) Issue #2 : The NAID Party Report (reviews, on-site reports, etc.) Issue #3 : The Music Contest ]I[ Report (clips of music and reviews) I am still waiting on a beta version of this from our developers, but stay tuned for more details. These diskmags will be a wonderful complement for every faithful DemoNews reader! _____Genesis (HORNET's first demo) HORNET is putting together a demo for the NAID demo party to be held this April 15th in Quebec, Canada. Tom V., Stony, and myself are working full steam to make this demo one that will guarantee HORNET a spot in the demo scene (i.e. you better greet us in all your demos from now on). :) Tom will probably be upset with me for promoting the demo in here (he isn't quite as confident as I am that it will turn out great). Regardless, I just thought I'd let you all know that it is coming, and it will be good. _____HORNET at NAID Plans have been made for 3 members of the HORNET crew to attend the NAID party. Coincidentally, Jeff/HORNET lives only a few minutes from the party place itself. I will be arriving at his house the night before the party begins, and will accompany Jeff to the party. On my journey, I will have the chance to drive through New York and several cites in the US that I've never seen before. If all goes as planned, this will be a real exciting time for me and the staff of HORNET. Ryan Cramer will also be attending (last I heard) but I do not know how or when he will be getting there. _____In Summary As you might have picked up from all of this, HORNET is a little busy at the moment. With my trusty coffee in one hand, my pack of cigars in the other, and a bowl of macaroni and cheese in the other, I will do my best to have all of these projects done _on time_ and done _well_. (hey wait a second, that's three hands I have things in!) Well, how do you think I type so fast? :) For those of you attending NAID, I'll be the guy in the corner of the room with a shaky hand holding a cigar, pulling out my hair, muttering the words "I can't believe we got it done" over and over and over... By the way, did I mention that I'm not really human? I'm actually a very advanced and automated script file on some computer in Akron Ohio. You don't honestly think that its humanly possible for one person to tackle this much do you? ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' _____Imphobia 9 (Bogus Bug Fix) Hi there... Well, we don't like to make such reports, but I guess this time it had to be done. Two days after the recent release of the Imphobia #9 diskmag, a file called IMP9BFIX.ZIP was released by a certain group called TEMPLAR. This file has been found at that Pointbreak BBS. As stated in the file_id.diz, this file is supposed to be a fix for Imphobia #9 pretending to correct some errors with the cursors and IRQs. Well, let's makes some things clear. This 'fix' doesn't fix anything (and we don't know about any cursor/IRQ errors in the mag). The only things it does is changing some stupid things like renaming our coder's name "WIZARD" into "LIZARD" and some other craps like that. It might also change some other things in the code and maybe some virus or trojans might have been put in there: who knows what those loosers might have invented. So we encourage you all _not_ to run that modified version and encourage all sysops to DELETE that file from their BBS file base. Our first intention was just to write a little text about this in the next issue of the Imphobia diskmag. But, as we don't know what those people might have included in that .exe and want to prevent our readers from any damages or problems this file might bring, we decided to release this little text to the public. A modified version of ZEBIG/SPEED's Imphobia #9 cover picture was also included with that pseudo fix. It's really evident that those people just want to bring some shit in the scene by releasing that kind of thing. It's really sad that those kind of things appear in the scene. Well, I guess some people do not yet understand the real meaning of the word 'scene'. Regards, Darkness [Imphobia] In the name of the whole Imphobia team. _____Changes Hello, everyone! Here we are, another week has come to an end, and another DemoNews is out. What you are reading now is just a general "What's going on" statement. First, I made a mistake in DemoNews 82 when I announced that Necros would not be at NAID. He is going, and he sent email to Snowman (which was later forwarded to me) to confirm this. At the time of writing that article, I had heard that he was not going, but this has changed. So, apologies to Necros, and the rest of you be cautious if you intend to enter the music compo! =) Next, the new "Help Wanted" section has some bulletins in it from people who might be looking for people like you, so be sure to check that out. If you are interested in posting a bulletin to the "Help Wanted" section, please refer to DemoNews 83 for complete details. Starting this week, myself, Phoenix, and PeriSoft will be writing reviews on uploaded material to HORNET. PeriSoft and myself will be reviewing the new music (in the form of individual releases, mostly), and Phoenix will provide reviews of Mags, MusicDisks, and Demos. This is in response to reader demand, so we hope it will be beneficial to you, and will encourage downloading from HORNET (or its _faster_ mirror: ftp.cdrom.com /demos) We may not be able to review everything that is uploaded, but we will try to provide you with as much information as time will allow for us to do. I got a response to my "What's in/What's out" feature in DemoNews 83, and the person wrote that he disagreed with some of the opinions presented. I appreciate any response I get to my articles, good or bad, and I would like to ask all of you to write me if you have a strong opinion of anything that I write. It is important that there is communication between the writers and the readers, for many reasons. I need to know how I am doing, and what I should change about what I do. I'm open to any type of criticism, of course, as long as you will defend your opinion. I am willing to adapt to any changes that you may suggest, and would like to know what you would like to read about in future DemoNews issues. It is my hopes that I can continue to write articles for this newsletter which are of interest to you, the readers. Your comments and ideas would be very helpful! Thank you for those who have mailed me already, and I hope to hear from more of you in the future! GraveDigger [Defiance] digger@freeside.scsd.k12.ny.us ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' _____Time for Reviews > Could you put all the DIRECTLY RELATED file stuff in the beginning... > Also, I like the file descriptions... Your recently uploaded file lists > are cool, if you could give a short review of each one would make it > great. > > Bobby And it became SO (that's my new motto). Everyone, check out our review section in this brand spanking new issue of DemoNews. > These reviews wouldn't have to be too long (god knows that DemoNews is > long enuf already:) ), just a short blurb on new demos, and maybe some > reviews of what you guys think of as "classic demos" like demos from > years gone by that you think people maybe haven't seen, but should take a > look at. > > Nettwerk This sounds like a good idea for when things get slow around here (not likely until after NAID). Also, we _are_ making attempts to keep DemoNews smaller. :) _____Necros is 'Da Man > Do me like a favor. In the next demonews tell people that I _am_ going > to NAID unlike the rumors section you printed in DemoNews #80 :> > > Necros OK DemoNews people, Necros _is_ going to NAID. GraveDigger, you're gonna get it now for feeding me false information. _____I Used to Be a Subscriber > Weren't there *three* huge messages last issue? In my experience on > mailing lists you start seeing people drop out every time there's a > period where a lot of mail starts hitting the list. > > Denis Papp If at all possible, we will keep the size of DemoNews down in the future. _____Where's the ROMs? > I am writing today because I recently bought a CD-ROM (especially for > Cthugha, a great, great program) and would like to know about any CDs out > there that are filled with demos and music. I find that demos, even > compressed, take up a LOT of room on the old HD or even backup disks. > > So if you know of anyone that has/is selling CD products, I would dig > their info, or just an E-mail address. And if you know it is not a scam, > it would be great if you included that information as well. Save me from > throwing away money in to someone's POBox. > > Matt Craig Anyone with information should contact mc007c@uhura.cc.rochester.edu _____Where's the Parties? > I'm going to europe this summer, and would like to get to a few parties, > but living in williams lk. BC canada, i get very little info without long > distance charges, and it often too late. could you direct me 2 some, in > the end of july, beginning of august? > > Brian .\\arshall Anyone with information should contact bmarshal@cln.etc.bc.ca _____What /groups? > I've been trying to get some files from that node, and I couldn't get > /demos/groups/asphyxia/texter5.zip and some others. What can I do? > Another question is how can I have a dir in that node? Is possible ? > > Jmc The /groups directory contains many invalid links to files. This problem will become more pronounced in the coming months. I am still unable to devise a plan to handle changes to this directory quickly and accurately. Unless someone sends me a really good suggestion on this, the entire directory will probably deleted inside of a month. This also means that no more /groups directories will be given out until the situtation is resolved or removed. ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' _____Denthor Uncovers a Secret Plot Well, here I am for another Demuan article. I am going to do something different today. Last week Snowman wrote that article saying that we seem to be straying a bit from focusing on demo type stuff. I don't want to get Snowman angry, he alters my tuts before releasing them (just see tut10new to see what I mean). So, just to show you that I actually _do_ code, and there is a reason I am here in the code section, I will give you a tip. When you declare a variable as a constant in a Borland compiler, it puts that variable on the stack. So... CONST bob : word = 50; mov ax,bob is actually mov ax,ss:[bob] What does this mean? It means that if you really really need an extra register, you can forgo local variables, make all your locals constants and use BP, also you can access globals while DS is pointing to something else. Cool huh? Whew, that should get me off the coding hook for a while. I am beginning to wonder if the internet actually exists. I think it may just be one big coverup, and all the people I think I am talking to are just typed in by Snowman. I must admit, he sure is a fast typist. Every time there is a net split on IRC, he has just decided that he doesn't feel like keeping up so many conversations with himself (and me!) I must admit though, he is thorough. He must write all those programs and stuff for the "hornet" incoming directory. He probably only does stuff for half of them though, knowing that I will never ftp some of the rubbish that is put there. How did I find out about his evil scheme? Easy. comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos . Nothing so utterly awful, so devoid of intelligence yet having such a large quantity, could be the product of a normal society. He must have written a little "GUS vs SB" macro, which he alters slightly whenever either company releases a new soundcard. He is clever though! Every now and then he writes something with a really cool header, such as "Trying to optimize gouraud code", but the body is always "Give me your optimized gouraud code, I don't know how." And here we have found the reason for his intricate plot. He wants all my source. Hahaha Snowman, you didn't think I would figure it out, did you! But I'm too clever, yes too clever, it's mine, mine you hear! nyahahaha! Wait. I have just figured out another thing. If the internet is a massive Snowman-hoax type thing, then only Snowman will read this article! I'm on to you, Snowman! I'll bet this whole "America" thing is just a product of your twisted imagination too. You almost had me there. You never convinced anyone with that "MTV" thing though. Wow, deducting is hard work. So long Snowman, see you next week! I'm off to buy another barrel of Jelly Tots. Byeeeee... - Denthor PS. Snowman, tell me truthfully, does the GUS exist? It doesn't, does it. That's why no one (you!) has sent me one. _____Snowman's Response As I stated in the "HORNET News" section, I am not actually human. I am an automated script file. However, this requires a bit of clarification. Denthor, not only is there no one else in the demo scene besides you and me, but you are the _only_ person subscribed to DemoNews. All that stuff about 1250+ readers is pure garbage. Since I'm a script file, it only takes me about 3.5 minutes to create an issue of DemoNews (not much work). My creator decided that it would be great fun to waste several years of your life on this fantasy called "the demo scene". However, you have now uncovered my secret plan. :( I guess I better come clean about that little World War ][ hoax too... And BTW: The GUS does not actually exist. It is a front by Gravis/Forte because they wanted some attention. All of the coders who claim to support the GUS are just making up code because they are embarrassed to admit that they have never seen a GUS. (It sure feels good to be honest every once in a while) ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' _____Control Looking for Musicians A group named CONTROL, based in Toronto, is seeking musicians. The group currently has a coder, and an ANSI artist. They are seeking no more than four "pretty good composers" for their group. They have coded their own music player, and seek to release a musicdisk. Any interested musicians should send a sample of their music to this ftp site/directory: compulink.com /control/applicants_work [ed: You should also include a text file with your song containing your email address, so they can contact you] _____Musician Needed We really need a good mod-composer for our demo productions. But we don't want the ordinary techno/disco music! IT'S BORING!!!! The best would be a musician that's inspired by Sisters of Mercy! Who are we?? Well, the Swedish demogroup DPS of course. [ed: the group did not give any contact info] _____In Summary I'm glad to see that this area is receiving some bulletins. I hope this new feature is helpful to everyone, and would like to hear your comments on it. Send articles to the email address at the end of this article. Please write "DemoNews Help Wanted" as the subject of your message. For a complete reference to the guidelines for submitting to this section, refer to DemoNews 83. Please, when submitting an article for the "Help Wanted" section, include your email address in the BODY of the message. This would be a great help to both of us. Thanks! - GraveDigger [Defiance] digger@freeside.scsd.k12.ny.us ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' _____How to Get 'em After reading this issue of DemoNews, you may be wondering how you can get previous ones. Well fear not! There are two different ways to do so: 1: FTP to hornet.eng.ufl.edu and go to /pub/msdos/demos/news/OLD_NEWS and start downloading anything you see. 2: Now you can request back issues of DemoNews via e-mail. Start a letter to listserver@oliver.sun.ac.za (any subject line) and in the body of the letter include "get demuan-list " where INDEX refers to the index number of the issue. For example: get demuan-list 55 This would retrieve DemoNews #80 For more recent issues that are split into multiple parts, you must send an individual request for each index number. _____Descriptions Issue Index Date Size Description ----- ----- -------- ------ ---------------------------------------------- 78 47-49 01/08/95 111185 The Party 1994: Results and Reviews, Report by Stony and Friends, What happened to PC- Demo competition. Editorial: TP94 = ASM94 part 2. Egg2: Trancescrambled Review, More on Fast Tracker 2.03. General Rambling by Denthor. 79 51 01/15/95 41832 A Day in the Life of Snowman, Ambient Sample CD 1, Where's the Sound Blaster, TP94 Graphics review. 80 55 01/22/95 27028 DemoNews/HTML, Traffic Jam, CodeThink(School); The Solo Sample CD 81 58,59 01/29/95 53434 NAID Survival Guide, General Protection Relationships, Ctrl-Alt-Delete, Now Its a Game!, Assembly Part 3 (It ain't no party), BSP Trees 82 64-66 02/05/95 81428 Setag and Notron News (A New Format), NAID FAQ, Interview with Maelcum/KFMF, Optimizing Vector Transformations on a Pentium, The Perfect Body, Top 10 Mistakes of Beginning Assembly Language Coders 83 67 02/12/95 22584 Reader Response?, What's In What's Out, Bizarre, Virus in Inertia Player, Introducing GraveDigger. ,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., <> '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Just today, two interesting things happened: A very nice woman that I was studying with got a flat tire and I spent a couple of hours trying to get her home. This time could probably have been cut in half, but I wasn't in any particular hurry. :) Ulrik Henriksen sent me three CD-ROMs, including the Assembly 94' party CD. I'll review this one for the next issue of DemoNews. You thought that we had a lot of projects going on here at HORNET? Well, next week I will announce the biggest project HORNET has undertaken in months. Its going to be big, its going to be important, and you are going to be impressed! (you might even wet your cyber-pants) Remember, we _need_ an Australian courier for Jason Nunn! Please help. See you in CyberSpace, -Christopher G. Mann (Snowman)- r3cgm@dax.cc.uakron.edu ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,End.of.DemoNews.084.